The Fully Connected Podcast with Chris Jones

The ”Fully Connected Podcast” is an interview style podcast where listeners engage in deep, insightful, and humorous conversations with notable guests from various fields. The podcast provides valuable insights and inspiration for listeners seeking to navigate the complexities of business, relationships and Life. Our approach is to blend the interview format with casual conversation, creating moments that make you think deeply and laugh along the way. Whether delving into the complexities of entrepreneurship or exploring the dynamics of relationships, the ”Fully Connected Podcast” offers a compelling blend of interviews and dialogue aimed at fostering connection and growth.

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7 days ago

In this raw and wide ranging episode, former NFL player Sam Breeden opens up about life in his 40s, marriage, fatherhood, and the mental pressure that comes with being a Black man in America. Sam reflects on his time in the NFL, politics, discipline, and what it means to raise kids in a completely different generation. From losing his father to building his marketing company, this conversation is honest, reflective, and grounded in wisdom.
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0:00 – Coming Up2:29 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: Life, Marriage and the NFL
2:29 – Sam talks about being in his 40s, life, and marriage5:15 – The struggles of NFL athletes and being Black → “Everything is measured”10:34 – Identity politics and the idea of preserving whiteness15:00 – What happened with his NFL career and meeting Brett Favre17:45 – Being married to a therapist and marriage advice22:42 – “Our kids will never understand CD players”
Chapter 2: Family, Grief and Personal Growth
25:25 – Sam shares about his father and growing up in North Carolina27:57 – Salt and pepper on grits or sugar31:15 – Going on a sugar detox36:24 – “Keep your circle small but keep it sharp”39:52 – Losing his father and navigating grief
Chapter 3: Business, Discipline and Mental Battles
42:03 – Sam talks about his marketing company46:41 – Advice for college athletes → “Financial literacy should be the number one subject”52:01 – The importance of discipline and not being lazy53:30 – Diddy and the importance of self control56:56 – Self awareness, self control, and internal battles58:02 – Gym talk and physical discipline
Chapter 4: Health, Culture and Society
1:01:43 – Heart health, waking up early, and treating the heart like a muscle1:07:39 – The state of the country1:13:38 – Kendrick vs Drake1:18:03 – Other cultures looking down on the Black community
Chapter 5: Fatherhood, Money and Legacy
1:22:01 – Parenting advice → allowing your kids to live their own life1:27:32 – “There’s a thin line between illegal money and legal money”
1:30:10 – Outro

Tuesday Dec 09, 2025

In this powerful and deeply educational episode, Dr. LaTasha N. Eley Kelly, Ph.D — known as Dr. Tasha — opens up about Black identity, womanism, and the intentional erasure of African history. From losing two jobs before earning her PhD, Dr. Tasha shares her unfiltered journey of resilience, purpose and truth. She breaks down Black body politics, the psychology why white women touching Black hair is harmful, and why feminism never centered Black women. This episode is honest, challenging and necessary. TAP IN!
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0:00 – Coming Up3:14 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: Importance of Therapy and Her Purpose
4:19 – The importance of therapy4:19 – Dr. Tasha shares her Autism Spectrum and ADHD experience8:39 – Creating her bookstore Left on Read11:24 – Her podcast and the struggle to get Black research peer reviewed14:55 – Career talk and life as a professor19:38 – Losing two jobs, moving back home and still earning her PhD
Chapter 2: Black History, Body Politics and Reconstruction
29:40 – Black body politics and slave owners forcing Black women to cover their hair33:35 – Unlearning Black church patterns around mental health36:08 – From Sarah Baartman to the BBL era40:14 – Why white women touching Black women’s hair is harmful47:05 – What white people need to know to be culturally competent
Chapter 3: Identity, Culture and Erasure
51:00 – African people as the original people of the planet51:50 – The intentional erasure of Black history57:04 – Are other cultures envious of Black people
Chapter 4: Womanhood, Work and Wellness
1:00:06 – Navigating toxic workplaces as a Black woman1:01:41 – Why feminism was never designed for Black women1:04:56 – The downsides of feminism for our community1:08:30 – What womanism really stands for1:10:12 – Marriage and what she believes it requires1:14:09 – Pushing through depression and the impact of her friend Amber1:19:00 – Why she does not want children and navigating fibroid health issues
1:27:00 – Outro

Sunday Nov 23, 2025

In this powerful episode, former college basketball star and Friends University Hall of Famer Joe Mitchell opens up about marriage, faith, loss, and life after the game. Joe shares how grief, parenthood, and purpose shaped him into the man he is today — from walking away from WSU, to finding love, to helping kids build emotional intelligence through mentorship and his new daycare. This one is filled with truth, healing, and perspective.
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0:00 – Coming Up!3:19 – Intro
Chapter 1: Basketball, Family & Coaching
4:26 – Joe talks about his wedding6:16 – Biddy Basketball & our friend Bryce Laviest10:43 – Joe shares about his parents and their influence12:04 – What inspired him to start coaching and the toxicity in sports17:07 – When he fell out of love with basketball and family pressures18:29 – How athletic his parents were20:43 – Grieving his mother’s passing in 2021
Chapter 2: College Life & Love
22:20 – Parenthood, college ball, leaving Ohio & WSU for Friends University24:32 – How he met his wife in college25:11 – What he’s learned about being a husband28:47 – The challenges of an interracial marriage → “I got more backlash from Black folks”34:40 – “Society wants us so divided”
Chapter 3: Basketball, Emotion & Growth
37:03 – “I stopped playing pickup ball because it’s so toxic” → The psychology behind it41:22 – Fighting with a best friend over basketball42:09 – The secret to being a great player43:28 – The truth about why he left WSU51:00 – “If I never left WSU, I never would’ve met my wife”51:40 – Life of a college star athlete → “I was a mini celebrity at Friends”54:27 – “Our society isn’t emotionally intelligent” & the Michael Jordan crying meme56:50 – The pressure of being in the spotlight as an athlete
Chapter 4: Culture, Music & Perspective
1:00:00 – His love for Rod Wave1:03:09 – Joe thinks Drake won against Kendrick1:09:50 – “Bryce Laviest pushed me to be who I am”
Chapter 5: Purpose, Youth & Legacy
1:13:56 – Joe’s thoughts on the school system1:17:13 – Helping inner-city youth and mentoring through his job1:25:01 – “You have to be regulated to regulate the child”1:27:34 – The secret to helping kids stop fighting at school1:30:00 – Starting an emotionally intelligent daycare with his wife1:35:45 – Joe on what keeps a marriage going1:37:44 – Outro

Tuesday Nov 11, 2025

Valerie Time Codes
In this heartfelt episode, Valerie White opens up about faith, relationships, and the strength it takes to lead with heart. From working alongside Coach Bill Self at KU to becoming a respected community leader, Valerie shares how her upbringing and faith shaped her views on love, purpose, and resilience. She reflects on dating as an educated Black woman, balancing career and single motherhood, and how vulnerability became her path to healing. Valerie also gets candid about walking through depression and loss, rediscovering her faith through her daughter, and finding peace through honesty — with herself and others.
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0:00 – Coming Up!2:06 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: Purpose & Passion3:10 – Valerie’s Backstory and Passion for Serving Others7:00 – Working in Sports at KU and with Bill Self8:39 – Would You Ever Get Into Politics?
Chapter 2: Upbringing & Mindset10:25 – Her Upbringing and How Her Mom Shaped Her13:00 – Dating and Relationships → “I Don’t Believe Someone Has to Be on My Level”14:00 – “I Was a Feminist. I Was Very Headstrong”15:30 – Personality Types, Leadership, and Community Service
Chapter 3: Career Moments & Growth18:33 – “I Met Kobe Bryant”19:33 – “I Just Started Wearing Makeup About a Year Ago”21:54 – Balancing Work, Fitness & Relationships
Chapter 4: Faith, Motherhood & Lessons in Love23:44 – How Her Daughter Gave Her Faith24:50 – “Who’s the Woman You Want Your Daughter to Know?” → Ending a Relationship & Her Advice28:40 – “Once You Have a Kid, It Throws Your Relationship Off”30:40 – The Key to a Healthy Relationship31:30 – Life as a Single Black Mom
Chapter 5: Friendship, Loss & Reflection33:44 – The Impact of Her Friend Jordan and His Passing38:09 – “I Care About What Others Are Going Through More Than I Do Myself”
Chapter 6: Vulnerability, Faith & Legacy40:14 – Valerie Opens Up About Depression & a Traumatic Event43:09 – Chris Breaks Down the Michael Jordan Crying Meme & Fear of Vulnerability45:40 – Dating as an Educated Black Woman & Bible Study With Friends47:37 – Secrets Behind Her Parents’ Long Marriage48:35 – Career Talk & Leadership Lessons49:00 – Outro

Sunday Oct 26, 2025

In this inspiring episode, barber and entrepreneur Nelson Tovar (owner of After Hours and co-owner of Coffee Daze) shares his raw journey of growth, faith, and self-discipline. Nelson opens up about growing up in a Mexican-American household where emotions weren’t easily shown, becoming a father at 19, learning balance between hustle and family, and the lessons that shaped his mindset as a man, mentor, and businessman. From helping his wife build her dream business to mentoring barbers and fighting daily negativity, Nelson reveals how faith, integrity, and discipline became the keys to his evolution.
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0:00 – Coming Up2:22 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: The Grind & Entrepreneurship
3:47 – Nelson’s Podcast After Hours4:17 – Barbering & Entrepreneur Journey7:27 – How Reading Books Changed His Mindset12:06 – “My Dad Went to Jail When I Was 11”13:03 – Balancing Family and the Grind16:40 – Helping His Wife Build Coffee Daze18:49 – Advice for New Entrepreneurs22:00 – Faith, Intuition, and Losing Patience24:26 – “Do You Feel Like You’re Doing Enough?”25:38 – “I’ve Been Planning This for Years, Bro”
Chapter 2: Negativity, Growth & Mentorship
26:26 – Fighting Off Negative Thoughts and People28:30 – How COVID Impacted His Business30:10 – “Lackadaisical” and What It Taught Him31:05 – “You Have to Be Ready to Evolve”32:00 – Becoming a Mentor to His Barbers34:00 – “When I Was 25, That’s When I Woke Up”37:24 – “Everybody Has a Don — Discipline Unlocks It”
Chapter 3: Faith, Family & Fatherhood
39:40 – Cutting Off Negative Habits43:43 – How He Met His Wife45:50 – Anxiety While Cutting Hair46:37 – Life After Barbering & What’s Next48:30 – Barbers as Therapists: Mentoring Through Conversations50:12 – Growing Up in a Culture Where Men Don’t Express Love52:51 – Redefining Success: Family Over Hustle55:50 – “You’ll Never Learn to Manage It If You’re Never in the Manager Seat”
Chapter 4: Legacy & Purpose
1:01:36 – The Importance of Branding1:03:00 – What Makes Him “Unc”1:05:02 – Chris Shares His Journey to Becoming a Therapist1:08:10 – Nelson Talks About His Podcast1:08:56 – Will Nelson Outgrow the City?1:11:47 – The Ultimate Goal: Becoming a Developer1:15:50 – Outro

Monday Oct 13, 2025

In this inspiring and deeply reflective episode, Coach Roland Mumford opens up about manhood, mentorship, marriage, and mental health. From coaching young athletes across the world to raising his own children, Roland brings raw honesty about what it means to be a man in today’s world — strong enough to lead, yet humble enough to apologize.
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0:00 – Coming Up2:22 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: Upbringing & Coaching Journey
3:40 – Growing Up as a Kid and Family5:35 – Coaching Teens & Building Discipline8:31 – Advice for Kids Who Want to Play at the D1 Level12:09 – Passion for Coaching Kids from All Over the World
Chapter 2: Marriage, Manhood & Family
14:50 – “When You Come Home, You’re No Longer Coach”17:12 – Advice for a Successful Marriage → “It’s Okay to Be Wrong”20:00 – “For Men, Our Words Carry So Much Weight”21:24 – Family and Kids23:00 – “I Saw Some Things Kids Shouldn’t See”
Chapter 3: Lessons for the Next Generation
24:12 – “For Some of You Kids, the Only D1 You’ll See Is on the Vending Machine”26:01 – Advice for Troubled Teens & Instant Gratification31:11 – “Get What You Feel You’re Worthy Of” → The Importance of Education32:40 – “The Microwave Society” → The Devil Lives in the Shortcuts38:05 – Reminiscing on Old Times (“Ya Done!” 😂)40:10 – Nintendo 64 / GoldenEye Memories
Chapter 4: Emotional Growth & Fatherhood
42:38 – Don’t Harbor Your Emotions → You Can Change the Narrative43:25 – What I Told My Son After His Football Game45:12 – How Harboring Emotions Becomes Detrimental47:02 – “An Embrace Does More Than Words Can”48:02 – Apologizing to His Son
Chapter 5: Faith, Family & Gratitude
49:40 – “I Wish God Made Us Look Our Cognitive Age” – Chris50:19 – The Power of a Two-Parent Household52:00 – “I’m a Product of People Who Cared” → Love From Chris’ Parents54:50 – Reminiscing Pt. 2: Rob Rapping Back in the Day56:42 – Favorite Music Then vs. Now 🎵
Chapter 6: Culture, Humor & Mental Health
1:02:30 – Kendrick vs. Drake Beef & Hip-Hop Debates1:08:58 – Talking Comedy1:13:43 – “Mental Health Is Huge — You Are Loved”
1:14:46 – Outro

Tuesday Sep 30, 2025

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In this unforgettable episode, entrepreneur Juliana Phillips (owner of Everyday Beaut and co-owner of Clifton Collective) shares her story publicly for the very first time. Juliana opens up about surviving domestic abuse, the hidden battles she faced behind closed doors, and how she turned her pain into purpose while building successful businesses and family. She also gives real advice, and guidance for anyone struggling in a toxic or abusive relationship.
0:00 – Coming Up2:41 – Show Starts
Chapter 1: Entrepreneurship & Balance4:40 – Staying Balanced as an Entrepreneur → “It Takes a Village”7:12 – Dancing in LA for Disney Band9:02 – “I Need to Figure Out My Passion”11:05 – “I Got a Hustle Gene in Me” → Who Inspired Her to Become an Entrepreneur15:10 – Difficulties of Being a Woman & Entrepreneur16:40 – Finding Confidence
Chapter 2: Personal Struggles & Anxiety18:38 – “When My Personal Life Blew Up, It Caused a Lot of Anxiety”19:28 – Detectives Showing Up to Her House & Job21:17 – “Detectives Feared for My Life and My Children’s Lives”22:52 – Living Privately & Panic Attack During the Investigation
Chapter 3: Domestic Abuse & Advocacy27:38 – “Acknowledging I Was a Victim So I Could Advocate for Others”28:58 – Advice for People in Abusive Relationships & Spotting Red Flags31:31 – “Day 2 of Marriage My Husband Was Going Through My Computer”34:50 – “I Had My Blinders On… I Met Him at Church”40:40 – “God Doesn’t Want Me in This Kind of Marriage”42:37 – When Someone Shows You Who They Are → Consistency & Narcissistic Traits
Chapter 4: Work, Friendships & Coping46:10 – Balancing Friendships & Work49:28 – Overproductivity to Cope → “I Let Work Be My Therapy for a Minute”53:03 – “I Got the Ambition Disease”57:02 – The Role of Mentors
Chapter 5: Life, Family & Healing59:17 – Chiefs Fan!1:01:05 – Work-Life Balance, Family & Motherhood → “I Cook for My Whole Family”1:05:46 – Relationship With Social Media1:07:20 – Children as Her Priority & Opening Her Heart Again1:14:16 – Ex Serving 13 Years in Prison → Impact on Kids & Mental Health1:20:00 – “This Couple Stared at Us All Night Reading the News Article”
Chapter 6: Lessons & Closing Thoughts1:22:40 – “Care About the People Involved, Not Just the Story” → Say Something vs. Say Nothing1:25:39 – Outro (Clifton Collective, Local Spots & Therapy Services)

Tuesday Sep 16, 2025

Titus Hayden
0:00 – Coming Up!2:25 – Episode Starts!
Chapter 1: Acting Journey & Early Career4:05 – When He Started Acting4:41 – Acting in PPP Loan Gone5:45 – Balancing Acting With a Full-Time Job8:50 – Importance of Sacrifice to Succeed
Chapter 2: Personal Growth & Mindset10:22 – Overcoming People-Pleasing11:50 – “We Have More Neurons in Our Stomach Than in Our Brain” → Listening to Your Gut14:30 – Upcoming Movie Big Dog & Action Movie Inspirations15:38 – Lorenz Tate Comparisons & Inspirations
Chapter 3: Big Screen & Hollywood18:19 – Seeing His Face on the Big Screen19:58 – Thoughts on Moving to Hollywood22:49 – First Audition & Being Nervous24:17 – Managing Anxiety On & Off Set25:17 – Concerns About Hollywood’s Dark Side
Chapter 4: Success, Discipline & Going Viral27:00 – The Secret Sauce to Winning in Life28:33 – Importance of Discipline30:16 – Overcoming Depression + Going Viral With Self-Film31:51 – Hitting 4 Million Views on TikTok33:57 – Loving Comedy but Being Shy
Chapter 5: Challenges & Vulnerability36:55 – Tough Emotional Scenes (Buy Her Movie)41:02 – “Don’t Sleep on a Short Man” → It’s Not All About Appearance44:02 – Growing Up Short & Opening Up About It47:08 – Manifestation & Prayer49:36 – How He Memorizes Lines
Chapter 6: Life Lessons & Wisdom51:21 – “You Have to Figure Out How to Write Your Story”54:47 – “Life Is a Stage and We’re All Actors” → Being Comfortable With the Uncomfortable59:41 – Spotting Fake Friends Who Put on Acts1:01:33 – Shifting From Watching to Performing1:04:46 – Being the Oldest Sibling (“I’m Not the Main Character Anymore”)1:07:07 – “Life Is a Cycle”
Chapter 7: Movies, Confidence & Dating1:09:24 – A Surprising Favorite Movie1:10:27 – Playing “Jake” in The Snooze & Confidence With Women1:15:32 – Dating Struggles as an Actor1:18:16 – Red Flags in Dating
Chapter 8: Family, Faith & Philosophy1:21:27 – “My Grandparents Raised Me”1:23:03 – Life as a Movie1:24:02 – “You Can’t Waste Any Scenes in Your Life Movie”1:26:02 – Letting Go & Regrowth1:29:03 – The Law of Motion → Changing Your Role in Life
Chapter 9: Current Projects & Future Goals1:30:54 – Short Films He’s Done1:32:05 – Thoughts on Love1:33:43 – Upcoming Movie Trap 481:36:00 – Confidence in Auditions + Memorizing Lines1:38:00 – Meaning of His Name “Titus”
1:39:36 – Outro

Tuesday Sep 02, 2025

In this episode, I sit down with Byron McSwain owner of Greater Grounds Coffee & Co, a Black-owned coffee shop in Wichita built through persistence, community support, and countless lessons learned. He opens up about rejection, overcoming fear, balancing family and entrepreneurship, and the realities of running a business. Byron also reflects on marriage, relationships, and the creative ways he and his wife keep love alive. This is a story of resilience, faith, and building something bigger than yourself! Tap in now to watch the full episode!
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**0:00 – Coming Up!****1:29 – Show Starts!**
### **Chapter 1: Career & Coffee Shop Journey**
**3:16 – Byron’s Career Background****6:52 – Early Stages of Starting His Coffee Shop****8:14 – “I Took a Lot of No’s and Rejection”****10:42 – Insider Tips to Start a Business**
### **Chapter 2: Family, Inspiration & The Grind**
**13:50 – Balancing Family and Work****14:51 – “Every Wednesday Night Is Date Night”****17:08 – Why Mom Inspired Him to Start the Coffee Shop****20:16 – “I Quit the Business. I Felt Defeated” (Location Issues)**
### **Chapter 3: Entrepreneurship Lessons**
**26:22 – Advice for Entrepreneurs: “Plan for Worst Case Scenarios”****28:48 – The Pros & Cons of Running Your Own Business****31:25 – Special Drinks at Greater Grounds Coffee****32:02 – Designing the Interior of Greater Grounds Coffee****35:01 – How Expensive Is It to Start a Coffee Shop?****40:02 – How to Get Over the Fear of Starting a Business****42:18 – Support From Other Coffee Shops in Wichita****43:20 – The Book That Helped Him Overcome Fear & Run His Business**
### **Chapter 4: Surprises, Labels & Life Lessons**
**48:45 – The Homeless Guy Story****52:57 – People Surprised He’s the Owner Because He’s Black****54:32 – Perks & Disadvantages of the “Black-Owned” Label****56:30 – How Refereeing Taught Him to Handle Criticism****59:35 – Best Advice for Kids From a Former Referee**
### **Chapter 5: Marriage, Love & Relationships**
**1:03:00 – How He Met His Wife Carrie****1:04:11 – “This Is My 3rd Marriage” (Lessons on Making Marriage Work)****1:06:00 – “Don’t Go to Bed Mad”****1:08:44 – Date Nights Pt. 2****1:11:01 – Marriage, Divorce & Healthy Relationships****1:14:23 – Date Nights Pt. 3 (Getting Creative With Date Nights)**
### **Chapter 6: Fun & Closing Moments**
**1:18:00 – “Byrrrroonnn!” From the Tyler Perry Movie****1:19:00 – Outro**

Tuesday Aug 19, 2025

Today’s guest is Christina Long President & CEO of Create Campaign, Inc., where she’s dedicated to helping diverse entrepreneurs start, scale, and sustain their businesses. She’s also the owner of CML Collective, a branding and communications firm, and a fierce advocate for building economic power in underrepresented communities.
Born and raised on the north side of Wichita, Christina’s journey hasn’t been without challenges including a near-death experience in her early years that changed her perspective on life and purpose. From those pivotal moments to leading programs that have helped countless entrepreneurs secure funding and grow their businesses, Christina’s story is one of resilience, vision, and unwavering commitment to empowering others.
 
0:00 – Coming Up!2:07 – Episode Starts!
Chapter 1: Entrepreneurship & Building Real Businesses
8:29 – Helping Entrepreneurs Get Loans9:33 – “You Have to Have a Business That’s Not a Hobby”11:55 – What Is ‘Create Campaign’ & How They Help Entrepreneurs (Success Stories)
Chapter 2: Inspiration & Early Life
15:32 – Who Inspired Her18:11 – How She Started Create Campaign20:57 – Growing Up on 19th & Childhood Memories
Chapter 3: Life Lessons & Personal Values
25:02 – “I Almost Lost My Life”30:10 – “I Don’t Skip Over People Because People Didn’t Skip Over Me”31:30 – The ‘People Meter’: How to Work With Others33:25 – Lack of Trust in the Black Community35:10 – “We’re Not Just Going to Build With All Black Folks”37:58 – Where Ego Can Be Harmful
Chapter 4: Failure, Success & Programs That Work
39:22 – How to Deal With Failure: “There Is Learning in Failure”44:00 – Success Stories From Her Spark Business Academy Program48:00 – What Is the Spark Business Academy Program?
Chapter 5: Personal Life & Balance
50:00 – Motherhood51:00 – What Keeps a Marriage Strong54:00 – How She Finds Balance: Boundaries & Delegation
Chapter 6: Economic Power & Future Goals
1:07:03 – Providing a Space for Black Folks to Get Together (The Gathering)1:10:09 – Black Folks Need to Have Economic Power!1:15:10 – How Our Economic Power Gets Disbursed1:16:32 – Her 5–10 Year Goal
Chapter 7: Closing
1:19:16 – Outro: How to Get Started With the Create Campaign

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